Wtf

[Shagaroo]

I have to disagree with the auto-bailing on the forum. We pummled Hex pretty good demanding a self moderated forum. Told him long bedtime stories how thread deletion and member banning would send this forum into a fiery, hellish abyss and provided links to the Island as proof. Now, he doesn't jump in and perma-ban someone from the get go and everyone wants to bail on him. You can't blame him for being a little gunshy about just jumping in and perma-banning someone after the shit we tossed on the wall claiming banning people would kill his forum. Now this happens as he is about to leave town and we want perfect forum moderation instantly. I think folks should just calm down and see how it plays out.

[Roham]

I have to disagree with the auto-bailing on the forum. We pummled Hex pretty good demanding a self moderated forum. Told him long bedtime stories how thread deletion and member banning would send this forum into a fiery, hellish abyss and provided links to the Island as proof. Now, he doesn't jump in and perma-ban someone from the get go and everyone wants to bail on him. You can't blame him for being a little gunshy about just jumping in and perma-banning someone after the shit we tossed on the wall claiming banning people would kill his forum. Now this happens as he is about to leave town and we want perfect forum moderation instantly. I think folks should just calm down and see how it plays out.

I agree, what happened to self moderation??? That's lame bailing on the forum, it's not Hex's fault nor is it cigarsmokers.com.

Self moderation means making Manix feel so unwelcome he won't want to come back, sort of like what happened with SFG, no?

[prophetic_joe]

new guy here and i'm sure my opinion doesn't count but i agree with roham and shag. bailing is lame, it's a self governing forum site and we should just all ban together to make sure he leaves. you know they say rat are the first to leave a sinking ship and while what i've seen from you guys so far makes me believe you're cool i believe every good member should stay and try to fix the leak created by TCMM.

in a way i agree with seegar. 20% good 80% bad but my feeling is that this is the ratio amongst every race. people in general suck but, Sarge. SC I think you 2 are members of the 20%. that 20% however needs to stick around and get rid of the 80%

[Seagar]

Hey Corona Gigante, thanks for continuously throwing me under the bus.
Ill admit this was probably the wrong place to express my opinion. Ever since something kinda personal happened I have always had that view in my head though.

[CoventryCat86]

The self-moderated forum thing is a great idea but there are way too many people who feel Manix went SO FAR over the line, they don't want to have anything to do with a forum that he's allowed to participate in. It would be on thing if a couple of clueless newbie who like to think they know it all drew this line in the sand but when many standup, experienced guys like SamClemmons, Hugh Jorgan, cigarsarge and ggiese feel this strongly insisting on a permanent ban then it has to make us all wonder.

I have quite a few issues with this guy. First off, I don't think he has any clue how out of line he was and continues to be. Instead of a permanent ban, I think he should be given a lenghty suspension, something on the order of six months at least and once he's had a good long time to let his unacceptable behavior sink in, he should come back and sincerely apologize to the community immediately. I'm pretty sure that the veterans are fairly sure of themselves that Manix will only continue to be trouble if he's allowed back (just like Barney on CigarPass ).

One week is way too short of a period of time for a ban on this guy considering the degree of his transgressions.

[QuietC]

I'd hate to see a bunch of good guys leave this forum. I'd hope that most of you would atleast wait until Hex has time to get back from his weekend trip before deciding to leave here for good.

[Neuromancer]

Or better yet, why not just wait and see if TCMM comes back? That way you keep all your options open...